In this episode of Data Career Transformations, Bolaji interviews Bryan Herbert, Senior Director of Analytics at Kargo. They discuss Bryan's unique career path from electrical engineering to fintech and ad tech, exploring how he applies his diverse experiences to build effective data teams. Bryan shares insights on the importance of team dynamics, the data maturity curve, and the future of business intelligence, emphasizing the need for low ego and high empathy in data professionals. He also provides valuable advice for aspiring data analysts and engineers, highlighting the significance of practical experience and understanding stakeholder needs.   Takeaways:  Bryan's journey from electrical engineering to data analytics showcases the diverse paths into the data field. Building a successful data team is akin to forming a jazz band, requiring a mix of personalities and skills. Data maturity is crucial for organizations to effectively leverage their data for business impact. The future of business intelligence may involve more intuitive interactions with data, such as conversational interfaces. Low ego and high empathy are essential traits for data professionals to effectively collaborate with stakeholders. Practical experience, such as personal projects, can significantly enhance a candidate's appeal in the job market. Understanding the business context and stakeholder needs is vital for data professionals to deliver impactful insights. The data maturity curve consists of descriptive, predictive, prescriptive analytics, and automation stages. Effective communication of data projects' business impact is essential for gaining stakeholder support. Continuous learning and adaptation are key in the rapidly evolving field of data analytics.   Chapters:  00:00: Introduction to Data Career Transformations 02:17: The Musical Journey: Jazz Trumpet to Data 03:27: Building Teams: The Jazz Band Analogy 05:12: Rally: Fractional Ownership of Collectibles 07:28: The Role of Data in Unique Asset Valuation 09:58: Transitioning from Rally to Cargo 12:22: Navigating the Ad Tech Landscape 15:00: The Importance of Domain Knowledge in Data 17:28: Team Structure and Cross-Pollination of Ideas 20:48: Exploring Rugby: A Unique Sport 24:32 The Scrum: Teamwork in Rugby and Agile 27:43: Understanding the Data Maturity Curve 32:20: The Future of Business Intelligence 39:52: Building Skills for Data Professionals   Speakers:  Guest: Bryan Herbert, Sr Director of Analytics @ Kargo Host: Bolaji Oyejide, Community Manager at dbt Labs   We're Building the Future of Data. Together.  We've always believed the best way to get better at data is by sharing what you're learning. That's why we built the dbt Community—a place where data pros at every level can ask questions, debate ideas, and push each other forward. It's not just about solving today's problems—it's about building what's next, together.  Crowdsource solutions—70,000+ people who've been there, done that. Find your crew—meet others who use the same tools you do. Stay at the cutting edge—discussions, meetups, and game shows keep things fresh. 👉 Jump in and say hi—[join the dbt Community now.]

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