I interviewed Susie Ulrey from the band Pohgoh! She's a guitarist and singer/songwriter who is living with Multiple Sclerosis. She's a huge inspiration to me as she continues to create great art and thrive despite living with a disease that robs her of her mobility and peace of mind. After our interview, she sent me this fantastic poem and I asked her if I could include it in the show notes:   The Thing Is | Ellen Bass     to love life, to love it even  when you have no  stomach for it and everything you've  held dear  crumbles like burnt  paper in your hands,  your throat filled with the  silt of it.  When grief sits with you,  its tropical heat  thickening the air, heavy  as water  more fit for gills than  lungs;  when grief weights you  like your own flesh  only more of it, an  obesity of grief,  you think, How can a  body withstand this?  Then you hold life like a  face  between your palms, a  plain face,  no charming smile, no  violet eyes,  and you  say, yes, I will  take you  I will love you, again.   You can listen to Pohgoh here: https://pohgoh.bandcamp.com/

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