“As rich and thoughtful as all of Brian McLaren’s work, but with a particular urgency!”
— Bill McKibben















Brian D. McLaren is an author, speaker, activist, and public theologian. A former college English teacher and pastor, he is a passionate advocate for “a new kind of Christianity” – just, generous, and working with people of all faiths for the common good. He is a core faculty member and Dean of Faculty for the Center for Action and Contemplation and hosts the podcast, Learning How to See. Brian has written numerous books that you should read, and right now I recommend his latest Life After Doom: Wisdom and Courage for a World Falling Apart.



In our conversation Brian and I talk about the desire to embody urgency and patience simultaneously, the music that has formed him, complexifying hope in dire times, and so much more.



Visit Brian McLaren at brianmclaren.net | IG: @brian_mclaren















Episode Show Notes



Works by Brian McLaren




Life After Doom: Wisdom and Courage for a World Falling Apart



Faith After Doubt: Why Your Beliefs Stopped Working and What to Do about It



Cory and the Seventh Story (co-authored with Gareth Higgins)



Brian McLaren’s full catalog








Resources & People Mentioned




Richard Rohr



Center for Action and Contemplation



Wendell Berry



Jeffrey Martin



Joni Mitchell



Bob Dylan



Carol King



“In the Mood” by Glenn Miller



Keith Jarrett



“Facist Architecture” by Bruce Cockburn



Lyle Lovett



Jane Goodall



Yvon Chouinard



John Krakauer



Robin Wall Kimmerer








Drink Recommended




Black & Tan
















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