In this luminous conversation, Dr. Roger Walsh -MD, PhD, psychiatrist, longtime meditation teacher and one of the wisest voices of our time -joins Jen and Shannon to explore what it truly means to live in relationship. Far beyond “getting along,” Roger invites us to see relationship as the very fabric of reality. He offers practical, heart-centered pathways for meeting our moment: wisdom practice, Karma Yoga, and a clearer way to engage with technology, AI, and social media.This episode is for anyone who wants inner work to translate into wiser outer action. And, for those who want tools (not pep talks) for living with more clarity, discernment, and care. Listen to be reminded that change begins with how we relate- to ourselves, to others, to technology, and to the larger web of life.If this episode lands with you, please subscribe, leave a rating, and tell a friend! And, as Roger asks: what small offering can you make today that both serves and asks you to grow?

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