How to manage technical debt with Lou Franco

23/10/2025 56 min

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Coding Chats episode 50 - Lou Franco discusses the concept of technical debt, its implications for software development, and the importance of quantifying it. He emphasizes that technical debt is not just a financial metaphor but a real issue affecting developer productivity and team dynamics. The discussion also covers the role of managers in understanding and addressing technical debt, the importance of metrics, and the eight questions that can help teams evaluate their technical debt. Additionally, the conversation touches on the impact of AI on technical debt management, highlighting both its potential benefits and challenges.Chapters00:00 Understanding Technical Debt03:17 The Financial Metaphor of Tech Debt06:04 Defining Technical Debt: Internal vs External Effects08:59 The Role of Developer Productivity12:05 The Team Responsibility of Technical Debt14:51 Why Managers Should Care About Tech Debt18:05 Quantifying Technical Debt for Visibility20:57 Improving Developer Productivity23:43 Communicating Tech Debt to Executives26:41 Understanding Technical Debt and Its Management36:37 The Eight Questions for Managing Technical Debt46:29 AI's Role in Technical Debt: A Double-Edged SwordLou's Links:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/loufranco/Book: https://loufranco.com/tech-debt-bookJohn's Links:John's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johncrickett/John’s YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@johncrickettJohn's Twitter: https://x.com/johncrickettJohn's Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/johncrickett.bsky.socialCheck out John's software engineering related newsletters: Coding Challenges: https://codingchallenges.substack.com/ which shares real-world project ideas that you can use to level up your coding skills.Developing Skills: https://read.developingskills.fyi/ covering everything from system design to soft skills, helping them progress their career from junior to staff+ or for those that want onto a management track.TakeawaysTechnical debt is often misunderstood and miscommunicated.The financial metaphor of technical debt can be misleading.Technical debt can arise from changing technologies, not just poor choices.Developers experience anxiety due to technical debt affecting estimates.Managers need to understand the visible effects of technical debt.Quantifying technical debt helps in communicating its impact.The eight questions framework aids in evaluating technical debt.AI can assist in managing technical debt but requires careful oversight.Collaboration with other teams can provide valuable insights into technical debt.Technical debt should be viewed as a team responsibility, not just an individual issue.