In this episode, host Ray Loewe and John Gardner explore the idea of “The Five Generations” — how generational context shapes opportunity, social mobility, and perceptions of success across time. The conversation examines how families and communities progress (or don’t) across generations, and challenges common assumptions about poverty, success, education, and “what it takes” to get ahead. The episode encourages listeners to think long-term — beyond a single generation — about legacy, values, and what “making it” can really mean.

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