David hosts while Ben (fresh from the pulpit) unpacks why being “after God’s own heart” isn’t about behavior modification—it’s about life transformation. We talk about the Holy Spirit’s role in reshaping our desires (not just our disciplines), how repentance opens us to real change, and why consequences in the Christian life aren’t payback but God protecting the beauty of His kingdom. If you’re stuck trying harder and feeling drier, this conversation reframes discipleship from sin-management to Spirit-led intimacy and growth.

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