In this episode, we unpack what it looks like when the Church acts like the Church — not in theory, but in real life. From Jael’s unexpected tent-peg moment to the calling of women in leadership, this conversation explores how God works through ordinary people with extraordinary courage.We also wrestle with how to understand the Old Testament today — especially when it feels messy, violent, or confusing — and what to do with miracles, healing, and the gifts of the Spirit in a skeptical world. Whether you're curious about spiritual gifts or wondering if your life actually matters in God's story, this episode is a reminder:You’re already equipped.You’re meant to participate.And yes, miracles still matter.

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