We are welcoming back the man behind the most debated number in retirement, Bill Bengen- this time with a special appearance from his lovely wife, Barbara. We take a brief detour to hear their love story and how they met, before getting into his new book, 'A Richer Retirement: Supercharging the 4% Rule to Spend More and Enjoy More'. He joins us in this episode to: Break down the primary goals of the book  Help you understand what's required to create and manage a successful personal retirement withdrawal plan Step us through all the tools required to make your money last your entire lifetime   📩 Sign up for our newsletter (NEW!) 🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website  🔗Connect with us ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee"  🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question   ===DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS=== 🆕Big changes with student loans in the new budget bill that just passed. Get help from the experts at Student Loan Planner, all CFP®, CFA and CSLP® professionals. They charge a one-time fee for their thorough review. Our listeners receive $100 off a 1:1 consult using the link below. Flat fee is normally $595, but after your $100 off 'Catching Up to FI' discount, it's $495. 👉🏼 Be sure to use this link: studentloanplanner.com/catchingup    For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners   RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.) 🌐 Bill Bengen 📘A Richer Retirement Charts and Tables from 'A Richer Retirement'   ⏰ 'Catching Up to FI' Episodes Mr 4% is now Mr 5% | Bill Bengen | 111   If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating or review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!   ⚠️Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.

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