Episode Synopsis "A Conversation about Conversations"

What is the aim of our conversations? What is our goal when talking to others, about difficult topics or really anything? And how do we have fruitful conversations, holding to what we know to be true, while being open to others and recognizing the reality of their own subjective experiences? Pat and John discuss. They apologize for abrupt end, where the recording is unexpectedly cut off! But Pat gives a short wrap up to close.

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