In this conversation, Cory Burch interviews guests Devon Rivera and Cass Cameron. Devon, a Christian conservative, discusses his political beliefs and values, including his support for secure borders and his opposition to abortion. Cass, who identifies as an independent and socialist, shares her views on the two-party system, the role of religion in politics, and her concerns about government corruption and social issues. The conversation covers a range of topics, including foreign policy, the economy, and healthcare. The conversation covers a range of topics including personal responsibility, addiction, abortion, government funding, corruption, religion, and the role of media. The speakers express differing views on these topics but maintain a civil and respectful conversation. They discuss the need for better mental health care, the influence of money in politics, and the importance of unbiased journalism. They also touch on the Israel-Palestine conflict and the role of religion in governance. Overall, the conversation highlights the complexity of these issues and the importance of open dialogue.

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