This was a conversation that started outside the studio and continued in, at first we didn't realise we were recording and decided to keep it in. It was going to remain on patreon however we felt it was an important discussion and should be heard by a wider audience. Let us know you thoughts and also please bare in mind we will discuss anything and everything and want to try and keep it healthy. If you enjoyed this we regular do topics like this over on the patreon, for 3.50 a month you get early access an extra bonus episode a week.

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