In Episode 5, you’ll hear from Jo Wise. This conversation was actually the first I had ever had with Jo, as she relocated to Woodend before I joined the Jellies myself. We had a great time talking about the ritual of attending the monthly B**bs to the Moon swim, the evolving narrative around women’s empowerment and what it means to live a values-aligned life. A big thank you to Jo for driving down to Melbourne to record with me. I know you will all love this chat.

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