In this episode, we speak with Kamal Ben Ali—author, legacy entrepreneur, and founder of the ASCEND movement. Kamal is the son of the founders of Ben's Chili Bowl, the legendary D.C. landmark that's nourished bodies and built community for more than six decades. After four decades of leadership in the family business, Kamal has written a transformational guide for a new kind of nourishment—ASCEND: The Black Man's Guide to Elevation, Success, and Purpose. launching July 25, 2025. This book dives deep into the challenges, breakthroughs, and mindsets that shape our journey. From overcoming generational pain to stepping into leadership and self-worth, this space is about rising above limitations and living fully in your purpose. This is more than conversation—it's elevation.

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