I talk to Hayley Tutte, a former social care worker now a qualified equine and human sports therapist who describes perfectionism as a form of self-harm. Hayley had ignored the emotional and physical signs of burnout until lockdown forced her to be, what she feared the most, still. From the depths of trauma she has completely transformed her life. She dares to take the credit for my rowing accomplishments too! Greatest learning and recommended reads at the end of the interview Karen: Instagram: karen.pirie and cornwallwoman Twitter: @karenepirie and @cornwallwoman Sarah: Instagram: cripps.sarah and bigbalancetheory Twitter: @sarahcripps7 and @theory_balance LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahcrippsand  https://www.linkedin.com/company/big-balance-theory/ Linktr.ee/bigbalancetheory James at BeHeard Be Heard | Podcast Production Hayley www.huquinesportstherapy Instagram: huquinesportstherapy   Mentions: Brené Brown (brenebrown.com) Amazon.co.uk : the body keeps a score meet the team - Monmouth (monmouthclinic.co.uk) Ride With Your Mind - Rider Biomechanics (mary-wanless.com) Recommended read: Amazon.co.uk : brene brown atlas of the heart

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