In this episode, Jason Niedle interviews Jakub Czakon, CMO of Neptune, discussing the challenges and strategies in marketing DevTools, particularly in the AI space. Jakub shares his unique background, insights on leveraging AI in marketing, and the importance of understanding the target audience. He emphasizes the need for trust-building with champions and buyers, the role of events in engagement, and the evolving landscape of pricing models in technology. The conversation highlights the intersection of data science and marketing, offering valuable takeaways for tech leaders. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Jacob Chakhan and Neptune00:58 Jacob's Unique Background and Transition toMarketing04:55 Leveraging AI in Marketing Strategies08:26 Understanding Neptune's Role in AI Research10:15 Challenges in Reaching AI Researchers11:08 Building Trust with Champions and Buyers14:54 Effective Communication Strategies in DevToolsMarketing17:18 Understanding Buyer Personas in DevTools19:15 Engagement Strategies for Growth22:25 The Challenge of Influencer Marketing in DevTools24:30 AI: Overestimating Short-Term Impact28:57 Extracting Net New Knowledge for Growth Takeaways •Jakub Czakon has a diverse background in chess, physics, and data science.•Marketing to developers requires a unique approach and understanding.•AI can significantly enhance marketing strategies and audience understanding.• Building trust with champions is crucial for reaching buyers.•Engagement through events and conferences remains important in the tech space.•Understanding the audience's information sources is key to effective marketing.• The future of pricing models in tech is uncertain and evolving.• Influencer marketing is challenging but can be effective with the right approach.• Using AI tools can streamline marketing processes and improve outcomes.• Extracting net new knowledge from within the organization can drive content creation.  Sound Bites "Understanding your audience is key.""You should speak to the champion first.""You need to extract net new knowledge." Keywords DevTools, AI, marketing, growth strategies, Neptune, data science, influencer marketing, engagement, trust building, technology trends

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