Phil first met Chris Whitaker on the radio during lockdown, when Chris published, 'We Begin At The End.'His extraordinary new book, 'All The Colours of the Dark,' also features a strong teenage lead character, facing some pretty dire circumstances. Chris tells Natalie and Phil he drew on his own early years trauma to create his new hero, Patch. He also opens up about being arrested, accused of a financial crime, just as his last novel was coming out.And he reveals he's come to love The Muppets' 'Rainbow Connection' song, since writing this book...!All The Colours of the Dark is a superb book. Read it before you see it on TV, as Universal are currently making it as a three season event.Trigger Warning: Chris speaks candidly about his own abuse as a child in this episode. This may be triggering for survivors of physical abuse, child abuse or domestic violence. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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