Mike and Gary talk about the innovative idea of bringing play into our work lives. They talk about how someone who is very high energy, like Gary, transitioned to online presentations, and how Gary wins over the skeptic in the room. Finally, Mike almost gets Gary kicked out of the Magicians' Alliance by asking him to explain a magic trick.Gary Ware is a Play Consultant for Breakthrough Play, where he helps professionals and companies incorporate play into the workplace to improve creativity and strategic thinking. He's on social media @garyware.Host Mike Pacchione is at bestspeech.co, where listeners can join the weekly email list, get free speaking tips or hire Mike to help your own storytelling skills. Follow Mike on social media @mpacc.

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