Steve and Lisa Cuss dive into the messy beauty of faith, spirituality, and personal growth. Together, they unpack the tension between divine love and human responsibility, revealing how everyday moments—even foraging for blackberries—can illuminate the spiritual journey. Through honest reflection and practical wisdom from Steve’s book The Expectation Gap, listeners will discover tools to bridge their faith gaps and cultivate deeper connections with God, themselves, and others. This episode offers powerful insights for building healthier, more grounded relationships—starting from within.

Resources mentioned in this episode include:



Elizabeth Barrett Browning’s Aurora Leigh: Book Seventh




The Camino de Santiago




This American Life with Ira Glass




Being Human: Grieve, Breathe, Receive  with Steve Carter




Being Human: Steve Carter (season 7 episode 7)




Steve Cuss’ The Expectation Gap: The Tiny, Vast Space between Our Beliefs and Experience of God




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