For episode 272, we are launching a new series on the Metta Hour, centered on kids, in honor of Sharon’s first children’s book, Kind Karl, coming out on December 9th!

Co-authored by Jason Gruhl, this illustrated picture book is for 4-8 year-olds and is a new children’s adaptation of Sharon’s beloved book Lovingkindness. To learn more about Sharon’s forthcoming children’s book, Kind Karl, and pre-order a copy with a special pre-order gift, you can visit Sharon’s website, right here: https://www.sharonsalzberg.com/kind-karl

For this podcast series, Sharon speaks with educators, caregivers, and researchers about the ways meditation, mindfulness, and lovingkindness can impact children of all ages and the family systems that support them.

For the first episode of the series, Sharon speaks with Susan Kaiser Greenland. Susan is a mindfulness educator and bestselling author, specializing in distilling global wisdom traditions and scientific research into straightforward everyday practices. In the early 2000s, she helped pioneer the introduction of secular mindfulness into classrooms through her Inner Kids model. After decades of working with children and adults and writing two widely translated books, Susan’s latest book, Real-World Enlightenment, was published in 2024 by Shambhala.

In this conversation, Susan and Sharon speak about:
- Susan’s journey with meditation
- Meditation’s effect on Susan’s son
- Inspiration for writing The Mindful Child
- Volunteering in schools
- Creating the Inner Kids program
- The importance of storytelling
- The playful approach for young ages
- The positive effects of mindfulness in schools
- The “Pink Bubble” compassion exercise
- Mindfulness for family dynamics
- Susan’s UCLA research findings
- Susan’s most recent book, Real World Enlightenment

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