Nature is priceless. It’s Monty Pythonesque to think that pricing nature will stop extinctions or protect the planet. On this episode of Big Ideas, former senator Bob Brown joins Paul Barclay to discuss the ‘price of extinction’, how monetising the environment won’t save it, the corporate capture of democracy and the failure of the major parties to truly protect the environment. This discussion was recorded on 5 February 2025 and things may have changed since the recording. Order What’s the Big Idea? 32 Big Ideas for a Better Australia now, via the Australia Institute website. Guest: Bob Brown, Co-Founder, Bob Brown Foundation // @BobBrownFndn Host: Paul Barclay, Walkley Award winning journalist and broadcaster // @PaulBarclay Show notes: Shorting the Environment by Polly Hemming, Rod Campbell and Richard Denniss, the Australia Institute (September 2022) Carbon credits no excuse for NSW Government to stall on saving koalas, the Australia Institute (April 2024) “Nature Positive” summit can’t conceal nature negative policies, the Australia Institute (October 2024) Theme music: Blue Dot Sessions We’d love to hear your feedback on this series, so send in your questions, comments or suggestions for future episodes to [email protected] Australia Matters: https://nb.australiainstitute.org.au/donateSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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