Most no-code tools give you an MVP. Woz wants to give you a business.On this episode of Agentic, I was joined by Ben Collins and Brad Eckert, co-founders of Woz, an AI platform that lets anyone build real, scalable web and mobile products with zero coding. Think Shopify, but for launching operational SaaS startups.If you’re in the early innings of building something in AI, especially if you’re figuring things out from first principles—let’s chat. Connect with us here:1. Woz: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/withwoz/2. Ben Collins: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bentcollins/3. Brad Eckert: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chefeckert/4. George Bandarian: ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian5. ⁠⁠Untapped Ventures:⁠ ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventuresThey break down:• Why shipping your MVP is just 1% of the journey—and what the other 99% really looks like• The difference between vibe coding, AI engineering, and real startup durability• What they learned from going through Y Combinator (twice), taking 80+ investor meetings, and raising a breakout seed round.• Why automation means more software businesses and not fewer jobs00:00 Trailer01:07 Introduction02:29 Empowering entrepreneurs04:27 Woz's Vision10:32 Success stories13:38 The origin story15:27 AI code generation evolution17:29 Technical insights19:44 The Role of AI30:31 Job markets31:20 Entrepreneurial mindset shift32:56 Business building challenges34:54 Creating a successful platform37:45 Y Combinator experience43:41 Fundraising insights49:29 Advice for AI Entrepreneurs56:31 Closing

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