This week Joel Hurd, one of co-producers of the podcast, talks with Dr. Jennifer Hawkinson, Associate Professor of Music Education at the University of Central Arkansas. Before joining UCA, Dr. Hawkinson spent 18 years in South Dakota as a music educator in several school districts, including one of the largest schools in the state, Sioux Falls Washington High School. She joined us at Amro Music as part of Amro University, a two-day gathering of college students and new music educators, where she gave a talk entitled Increasing Retention In Your Music Program. This conversation was recorded April 9, 2022

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