In this episode of A Productive Conversation, I sit down with Chris Ducker—serial entrepreneur, bestselling author, and longtime friend—to talk about his latest book, The Long Haul Leader: 10 Strategies to Work Smarter, Live Better, and Achieve Lasting Success. Chris has spent over two decades building, buying, and selling businesses, while mentoring leaders worldwide.Our conversation goes beyond business tactics. Chris shares candid stories of burnout, rebuilding, and how energy—not time—is the most valuable asset for sustainable success. From the importance of patience to the role of hobbies in leadership, this episode offers insight into what it really takes to thrive for the long haul.Six Discussion PointsWhy hustle is a season, not a lifestyleThe lessons Chris learned from battling burnout—twiceWhy energy is more valuable than time for leadersThe art of letting go: selling businesses and focusing on what mattersHow patience, adaptability, and presence shape long-term leadershipWhy hobbies and creative outlets are vital to performance and recoveryThree Connection PointsGet Chris's Book: The Long Haul LeaderThe Long Haul Leader SummitChris's websiteChris’s story is a reminder that success isn’t just about building businesses—it’s about building sustainability into your life and work. The principles he shares in The Long Haul Leader apply whether you’re running a company, leading a team, or simply trying to create a healthier balance for yourself.

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