What's up dirtbags! This is one of my all-time favorite interviews and I felt like it's a really good time to hear this conversation with my friend Genevieve Smith. We recorded this in the late summer of 2020 and so much of what we talk about is still very relevant now. Genevieve has always been good at reminding me to stay hopeful, and I hope this conversation does the same for you.

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