r/zen is a reddit forum about Zen scholarship, study, and practice. Reddit Post: https://www.reddit.com/r/zen/comments/z4yk2b/zen_under_the_gun_buddhas_defeat/ Post Summary: "Buddha's end was a scene of defeat. In the assembly of billions, not one had the energy of a patchrobed monk. Zen Teaching: Zen Under the Gun: Four generations of Masters Post Cast Overview: The Cases before and after. The question of what Daian knew and when he knew it. Is alive and dead like not enlightend and enlighted? Why did Buddha say if you think I will be dead you aren't it, or if you think I will not be dead you are not it? Zen Lineage: www.reddit.com/r/zen/wiki/getstarted  

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