r/zen is a reddit forum about Zen scholarship, study, and practice. Reddit Post: https://old.reddit.com/r/zen/comments/18rkcoe/poor_helpless_and_drunk/ Post Summary: It's about this. Zen Teaching: The Gateless Checkpoint of the Zen Lineage Chan Zong Wumen Guan (J. Mumonkan) 禅宗無門關 By Wumen Huikai (1183-1260, J. Mumon Ekai)  Translated by Gregory Wonderwheel © 2007  10. Qingshui is Orphaned and Poor Venerable Caoshan: because a monk said the question, "Quingshui is orphaned and poor.  I beg, the master to give alms to aid."             Shan said, "Shui practices*."             Shui agreed.             Shan said, "You have drunk and finished three cups of wine from the Clear House of Qingyuan (the source of Qing), yet [MM 20] you say you have not moistened your lips."  Wumen's Lecture: Qingshui donated his function; what was the business of his heart-mind?  Caoshan possessed a deep eye to discern function.  So although it was thus, just say what is within "Shui practices" that deals with drinking wine?  Wumen's Explanatory Verse: Poor like Fandan, Spirit like Xiangyu; Although without a plan of work, He dares to participate and struggle for wealth.  Post Cast Overview: (under construction) Zen Lineage: www.reddit.com/r/zensangha/wiki/getstarted

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