Olly and Becky interview Sam Haiser from Austria who is in the UK studying to become a priest in the Church of England. He talks about a system he authored to train and equip spiritual fathers and mothers to mentor and disciple young people. It's more than a resource - it's a training programme and a way of life! He also talks about his Christian journey, becoming a youth worker, being mentored himself, the call to church leadership and unpacks the vision behind his huge passion of spiritual fathers and mothers.

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