In this episode, Richard joins fresh off his Second Harvest retreat in Spain to talk about the myth of constant creativity, Joe talks about the beauty of the “average Thursday,” and Richard speaks to why resistance is the doorway to real growth. We trade stories about chasing the thrill of deadline chaos, the grind versus the high of agency life, and the trap of mistaking busyness for progress. Richard breaks down how Second Harvest helps people confront fear, embrace stillness, and integrate deep reflection into daily life, not just during a retreat, but back home amid kids, clients, and chaos. It’s a conversation about cycles of work and rest, the illusion of endless optimization, and learning to find meaning in the 80% of life that’s not the highlight reel.

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