In this episode the pair talk about the scary, necessary and transformative power of change and transition. Pulling from their individual experiences, they explore and discuss the clues that come along with season changes, the emotional struggle that ensues with changing thought processes, new expectations and upscaled problems. Shean’s Dad impresses upon him the need know the difference between feeling and knowing, perceiving and projecting. This episode is one of those repeat performers where each time you’ll find something new that you didn’t see before. Support the show

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