Today's guest is Pat Kiloran, aka Nobody Likes You Pat, an artist, songwriter, and producer from the US who I was first introduced to in the summer of 2021. We wrote a slew of deep, impactful pop songs, including 'One Day Before I Die', which he released earlier this year as a single, and we continue to stay in touch and create together. This episode definitely deserves a second part - there was just too much that I wanted to keep, yet had to cut quite a bit for time. We talk about artistry & parenthood, how art being so deeply connected to the person of the artist may actually end up being a damaging practice for the creator, and songwriting as something which doesn't necessarily have to take away from everything else in your life for you to enjoy it.
Check out Pat's 2021 EP, 'spinning' for a brief taste of what Pat is capable of.

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