Send us a textA listener named Ellen, originally from the U.S. but living in the Czech Republic, writes in to share what's on her mind and heart, thoughts and feelings so specific to this time but also so universal, Words by Winter: Conversations, reflections, and poems about the passages of life. Because it’s rough out there, and we have to help each other through. "If You Knew," by Ellen Bass, is from her beautiful book The Human Line, published by Copper Canyon Press in 2007 and used with permission of the author and press. It was read by Matthew Colfax and Devon O'Brien. Ellen's letter was read by Devon O'Brien. Original theme music composed and performed by Dylan Perese, who can be found on Instagram at @dylan.field.perese. Additional music composed and performed by Kelly Krebs, who can be reached at [email protected] and soundcloud.com/kellykrebs. Artwork by Mark Garry. Words by Winter can be reached at [email protected]. For more information, go to alisonmcghee.com and click on the Words by Winter podcast page.

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