In this conversation, Andy and Jed discuss a range of topics related to education policies and the role of teacher unions, particularly reflecting on experiences in Oaxaca, Mexico and the United States. Jed shares his observations about the strong presence and activities of teacher unions in Oaxaca, contrasting them with unions in the U.S. The discussion extends to broader issues within the education sector, including the dynamics of charter schools, governance models, and the impact of large education reforms in cities like Denver and Indianapolis. They also touch on recent studies and political developments, such as the upcoming elections and their potential implications for education policies. Additionally, they reflect on the contributions and legacy of influential education leaders like Don Shalvey and Larry Rosenstock.Show Notes:Tim Daly on Finlandhttps://www.educationdaly.us/p/the-rise-and-fall-of-finland-maniaOG Eduwonk on Finlandhttps://www.eduwonk.com/2004/04/finland-rising.htmlEduwonk on DiAngelishttps://eduwonk.substack.com/p/the-bloom-is-off-the-seth-rose-what74 on DiAngelis backstoryhttps://www.the74million.org/article/corey-deangelis-disgraced-not-by-liberals-he-trolled-but-right-wing-parents/Denver Studyhttps://publicaffairs.ucdenver.edu/docs/librariesprovider36/default-document-library/denver-study-summary-september-2024.pdf?sfvrsn=60236bb4_1Denver Public Radio storyhttps://www.cpr.org/2024/09/23/denver-public-schools-controversial-reform-successful/Denver Post storyhttps://www.denverpost.com/2024/09/23/denver-school-reform-academic-performance-study/Matt Landner on ESA financehttps://www.reimaginedonline.org/2023/07/arizona-governor-touts-misleading-narrative-on-arizona-empowerment-scholarship-program/Bellwether school finance workhttps://bellwether.org/publications/splitting-the-bill/Rotherham in New York Times on when teachers unions fought their own teachers over innovation:https://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/10/opinion/10rotherham.htmlJed Wallace on Don Shalveyhttps://www.charterfolk.org/remembering-don-shalvey-a-mid-summers-nights-dream-of-loving-what-we-do-and-who-we-do-it-with/Eduwonk on Don Shalvey

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