We get a full recap of Jana’s Fourth of July trip to Michigan, but it wasn’t all fireworks and barbecues. She opens up about a blow-up that happened with her mom, which leads to a discussion of how small comments can compound into a big fight.   Kathryn says she had a “tester of an empty nester” when her kids were all out of the house for the Fourth, and we find out what Jana and Kristen plan to do when their kids are all grown up.   Plus, when women handle most of the household work, why are they often called “high strung”??See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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