Today we have our good friend Phil, also known as DrawFilDraw on. We talk about creativity and whether it's something that can be learned and honed, as well as the more artistic side of creativity, before going on a bunch of unrelated tangents because we can't stop talking!

shownotes:

Savant in the studio:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyXMhf0NbOU

William Osman cool engineering guy:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfMJ2MchTSW2kWaT0kK94Yw

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