Tess shares beautifully her mothering journey, how she returned to education and began her caring career. A beautiful conversation about love, compassion, kindness, recovery, belonging and so much more. I am really moved by the level of compassion and kindness I witnessed as I had this conversation with Tess - an episode that perhaps leaves us all with some stuff to think about, particularly about those in the prison service. As Tess points out and I agree, prison is about about removing someone's liberty and not their humanity.

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