Dr. Nikki Pappas and Dr. Sara Wallace are physical therapists and educators in Salt Lake City, UT, and the captains of Team Vulnerability and Team Curiosity, respectively. They have wonderful insight into how to leverage those traits to improve patient care as well as promote well-being among clinicians. Also, I've never had to bleep out as many swears as I did in this interview.

Part 2 of this episode is coming up next in the feed so stay tuned!

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