KEITH O’BRIEN is a journalist and author. In April2024 he wrote a piece in The Atlantic, “You’re Going to Miss Sports Journalism When it is Gone.”  In this conversation, recorded in April 2025, he says not much has changed in that year to make him optimistic about where the business is going. We talk about the conditions in the industry, about young people and their interest in it, some ideas about how the information is and how it should be imparted, and muchmore. O’Brien’s latest book is Charlie Hustle: The Rise andFall of Pete Rose and the Last Glory Days of Baseball.Recorded April 25, 2025

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