This conversation explores the profound difference between the sacred, disciplined use of psychedelics in indigenous cultures and their casual, commercialised use in the West. Traditionally reserved for deep, transformational rites, psychedelics are now often misused as shortcuts to transcendence, bypassing necessary spiritual preparation and grounding. This trend risks leaving users unanchored, emphasising the need for reverence, patience, and true inner work over fleeting experiences.Ultimately, the interview underscores the need for humility, patience, and reverence in approaching such powerful tools, honouring the spiritual journey as one of inner transformation rather than external thrills. Join us to gain deeper understanding of sacred cycle of nature, how we partake in this cycle, and what is required to connect to its rhythm of renewal and release by consuming certain substances through mindful preparation.

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