This week, we had the pleasure of talking with Dr. Dean Hammer, a consummate Activist-Practitioner who refutes silence in the face of malignant normality. Hammer explains the pull of quiet compliance, especially during times of atrocity. We spoke with him about where his work in the classroom, the protest, and the clinical setting overlap.Dr. Hammer seeks a psychoanalytically informed community that invests in peace even as it operates with an awareness of the walls imposed by the justice system, the academy, and the flag under which it operates. We welcome you to read his essay "Reflections on Ploughshares Eight," published in ROOM 10.23.Thank you for listening,Your hosts, Isaac Slone and Aneta Stojnić Voices From ROOM will return in September. While we're away, we welcome you to listen to past episodes. We appreciate your ratings and reviews and can't wait to share a new season with you this fall.

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