In this episode, Phil Brown discusses the importance of empowering participants in climbing activities by allowing them to make choices about their experience, particularly the choice to come down when they feel uncomfortable. He challenges traditional mindsets that prioritize reaching the top as the ultimate goal and emphasizes the need for facilitators to listen to participants' needs and create a supportive environment. Phil advocates for a shift in perspective that prioritizes emotional safety and encourages facilitators to critically evaluate their programming and language to enhance the overall experience for all participants.   If a participant wants to come down, always say yes. Celebrating those who advocate for themselves is crucial. Reaching the top shouldn't be the only measure of success. Facilitators must balance challenge and panic for participants. It's important to honor participants' choices for emotional safety. Encouragement should be framed with respect for individual needs. Program design should allow for adequate time and support. Language used in facilitation can impact participants' experiences. Facilitators should continuously critique and improve their programming. Empowering participants leads to better outcomes in climbing experiences. Connect with Phil - [email protected] Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/verticalplaypen/ Support the podcast - verticalplaypen.org Music and Sound effects - epidemicsound.com

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