In this episode, Maureen and Mashudu reflect on the journey of learning—whether you’re hitting the books young or circling back to study later in life. It’s a candid exploration of timing, choice, and the frameworks we use to make life-altering decisions about education and direction.They then dive into what it means to chart new paths in unfamiliar terrain—building legacies from scratch, in spaces where no footsteps have gone before. It’s a conversation about courage, vision, and the quiet power of doing things your way, not just for yourself, but for generations to come.The conversation deepens with reflections on therapy: what brings us there, what we hope to extract, and how it connects to the broader, often uncomfortable, process of returning to self. In a world driven by power and performance, the duo ask what happens when we choose not to conform—when we question the structures we’re told to respect.This one’s layered. Introspective. And full of questions that don’t have easy answers—but maybe that’s the point.

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