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Listen "199. The Truth and Lies of Trans Inclusion at Work, with Sophie Wood"
Episode Synopsis
Warning: This episode contains references to discrimination, suicide, and mental health struggles. Please listen with care.
Welcome back to Truth, Lies & Work, the award-winning psychology podcast from the HubSpot Podcast Network — hosted by Chartered Occupational Psychologist Leanne Elliott and business owner Al Elliott.
This week, we’re talking about one of the most misunderstood (and often avoided) topics in people management: how to support transgender colleagues in your workplace.
Our guest is Sophie Wood — trainer, speaker, and trans woman with over 13 years of lived workplace experience. She’s here to answer the questions most managers have — but are too afraid to ask.
This isn’t a lecture on political correctness. It’s a step-by-step, fully human guide to making your workplace psychologically safe, legally sound, and genuinely inclusive.
💡 Key Takeaways from Sophie Wood
– The law gives choice, not orders: Despite media panic, no new legal requirement forces employers to exclude anyone — use your company values, not fear, to guide decisions.
– Definitions made simple: “Trans” is about movement, “cis” is about congruence, and most of us live on a spectrum — not in fixed boxes.
– Bathrooms aren’t the issue: Sophie’s experience shows most trans employees fear causing trouble far more than becoming it.
– Mess up? It’s okay: Intent matters more than perfect wording. If you make a mistake, acknowledge it, learn from it, and move on.
– Rethink your training: Most DEI sessions reinforce “otherness”. Sophie’s frame-of-reference exercise helps teams connect through shared humanity instead.
– Psychological safety is practical: Letting people say things out loud helps them process — and prevents negativity from spiralling.
– Allyship isn’t optional anymore: Inclusion isn’t about checking boxes. It’s about seeing the human being, not just the label.
🔗 Connect with Sophie Wood
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophie-wood-deib-mhfa/
Mental Health First Aid Training: https://belongingbase.com/mental-health-first-aid
**Editor's Note**
In this episode, the hosts reference Sophie Wood as a former police officer. To clarify, Sophie worked as police staff, not as a police officer.
🧠 Need More Support?
Mind UK: https://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/
Mental Health at Work: https://www.mentalhealthatwork.org.uk/
Samaritans: Call 116 123 (UK) or email [email protected]
💬 Connect with Al & Leanne
Truth, Lies & Work on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/truthlieswork
Al on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thisisalelliott
Leanne on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meetleanne
Email: [email protected]
Book a call: https://savvycal.com/meetleanne/chat
🎧 If you found this episode helpful, please share it with a colleague, leave a review, or connect with us online. It’s time we made inclusion make sense — for everyone.
Welcome back to Truth, Lies & Work, the award-winning psychology podcast from the HubSpot Podcast Network — hosted by Chartered Occupational Psychologist Leanne Elliott and business owner Al Elliott.
This week, we’re talking about one of the most misunderstood (and often avoided) topics in people management: how to support transgender colleagues in your workplace.
Our guest is Sophie Wood — trainer, speaker, and trans woman with over 13 years of lived workplace experience. She’s here to answer the questions most managers have — but are too afraid to ask.
This isn’t a lecture on political correctness. It’s a step-by-step, fully human guide to making your workplace psychologically safe, legally sound, and genuinely inclusive.
💡 Key Takeaways from Sophie Wood
– The law gives choice, not orders: Despite media panic, no new legal requirement forces employers to exclude anyone — use your company values, not fear, to guide decisions.
– Definitions made simple: “Trans” is about movement, “cis” is about congruence, and most of us live on a spectrum — not in fixed boxes.
– Bathrooms aren’t the issue: Sophie’s experience shows most trans employees fear causing trouble far more than becoming it.
– Mess up? It’s okay: Intent matters more than perfect wording. If you make a mistake, acknowledge it, learn from it, and move on.
– Rethink your training: Most DEI sessions reinforce “otherness”. Sophie’s frame-of-reference exercise helps teams connect through shared humanity instead.
– Psychological safety is practical: Letting people say things out loud helps them process — and prevents negativity from spiralling.
– Allyship isn’t optional anymore: Inclusion isn’t about checking boxes. It’s about seeing the human being, not just the label.
🔗 Connect with Sophie Wood
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophie-wood-deib-mhfa/
Mental Health First Aid Training: https://belongingbase.com/mental-health-first-aid
**Editor's Note**
In this episode, the hosts reference Sophie Wood as a former police officer. To clarify, Sophie worked as police staff, not as a police officer.
🧠 Need More Support?
Mind UK: https://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/
Mental Health at Work: https://www.mentalhealthatwork.org.uk/
Samaritans: Call 116 123 (UK) or email [email protected]
💬 Connect with Al & Leanne
Truth, Lies & Work on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/truthlieswork
Al on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thisisalelliott
Leanne on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meetleanne
Email: [email protected]
Book a call: https://savvycal.com/meetleanne/chat
🎧 If you found this episode helpful, please share it with a colleague, leave a review, or connect with us online. It’s time we made inclusion make sense — for everyone.
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