Olivia Troye, former Homeland Security advisor to Mike Pence, joins Charlie Sykes to share her firsthand experience observing immigration court and the chilling tactics now being employed by ICE. They discuss the erosion of due process, the rise of politically motivated enforcement, and the broader consequences of fear-based governance under Donald Trump. From domestic crackdowns to foreign policy brinkmanship, Troye offers a sobering warning about what happens when law enforcement becomes a weapon and leadership thrives on chaos. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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