Fresh out of the fishbowl of pastoral ministry, Ardin and Jonathan throw Phil Evans into the hot-seat to unpack his departure from HVBC. Listen as Phil guides us into the valley of decision to share what he learned about faithfulness, identity, leadership, and sitting in the presence of Jesus.  Check out what's on the horizon for Phil and his family, along with our family at WDBC (hint: it involves barn dances, dads, and Robert's Rules of Order)! ----For an extended interview with Phil Evans on the Ryan Ries LIVE show, titled "Kingdom Submission vs. Personal Ambition," check this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPA7fxaaIq4 

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