The hosts start by discussing the recent death of Jimmy Carter and his legacy.They then play a game where they have to guess whether a quote or action is attributable to Elon Musk or Jimmy Carter.This leads to a discussion about the different ways in which Musk and Carter represent the American story.They talk about the role of government in society and whether it should be more involved in funding things like space exploration.They also touch on some of the more controversial actions of Elon Musk, such as his involvement with Neuralink.The episode ends with a discussion about the possibility of a celebrity boxing match between Musk and Mark Zuckerberg.

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