In this week’s episode of This American Principal, Joan sits down with Tracy Vandeventer — the mentor who first nudged her toward leadership. With 35 years of experience, Tracy has led schools across every level — elementary, middle, and high school — in both challenging and thriving contexts. Together, they unpack what it means to lead with authenticity, build trust in divided communities, and carry the emotional weight of leadership without burning out.From quick wins that build credibility, to hard conversations with veteran staff, to the unseen burden principals carry when tragedy strikes a community — this episode is both honest and deeply inspiring. Whether you’re a principal, educator, or community member curious about what it really takes to lead a school, Tracy’s wisdom is a reminder that courage and compassion must always go hand in hand.Keywords: Trust in schools; American education; school leadership; leadership in education; principal voices; principal; American leadership storiesShare this podcast with a colleague, mentor, or friend who needs to hear it. And if you’ve got a story of your own, submit it at www.leading4learning.com.

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