Politics and church, church and politics. They can't mix, right? So we asked an actual politician who then become a pastor. Russell leads a very dynamic, bold, effective church in the Seattle area and as of this writing they've quintupled (aka 5x) their church in just the last 19 months. That's something else we were told can't be done: growing a church in the northwest. And in Covid? No way. Yet here we are in a fun conversation with a brilliant mind and student of people and leadership.Russell on IG>>>Follow the podcast on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube @thinklesspodcast. Rate, Review, Subscribe, Share, and Like so that we can continue to challenge deeper thinking in each other.

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