Jay Nichols, chair of the Vermont Commission of the Future of Public Education and Executive Director of the Vermont Principal's Association joins the pod. Jay discusses the shifting role of the commission, the growing strains on Vermont's education system, and the importance of putting student need at the center of reforms.In the opening segment, Joanna and Andy talk about a recent Emerge event, the role of PACs in Vermont, connecting with rural voters, and we hold heated debate on if Joanna overslept during one of Andy's Honk & Waves. Spoiler alert: she did. In Last Licks, Andy and Joanna share their strangest jobsAdd a comment

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