Chris talks with Padraig about his years of working in positive behavioural support and applied behavioural analysis and his changing focus since the pandemic. He discovered the power of communicating insights from psychology in a way that people can understand and has since  worked with the media and has worked with different organisations utilising psychological insights  to support them. And then he became a Dad and chats with Chris about this amazing,  life changing experience and they share their thoughts on fatherhood and being first time Dad's.

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